Dave Stone's Season of Scenery Challenge

Another Online Challenge?

I wanted to take part in this challenge when I first heard about it. I love building terrain, but it often gets side-lined in favour of minis (or drawing maps, or planning etc). The challenge is a great way of focusing my efforts. I've a lot of stuff to build for Orc's Drift, so this seemed like an excellent opportunity.

However, I'm now in the process of sorting out minis etc for the face to face D&D session, so can I spare the time?

No, not if I'm going to meet the D&D8W project.

Fortunately, Dave has kindly pointed out that the challenge is for any scenery, and dungeon stuff definitely counts (I love fuzzy challenges!)

So I'll be plodding along, including some D&D terrain in my eight week project and cheekily including it in the Season of Scenery.

If you like building scenery, or if know you you need to, but just need that bit of impetus, check out his blog and sign up.

Dungeons And Dragons 8 Week Project - The Heroes of Nentir Vale

As I mentioned in the introduction, I'm putting together minis for a face to face D&D session in August. 

Player Characters are the most important requirements, so a big welcome, please, to....

Two thirds of the Heroes of Nentir Vale

The Heroes of Nentir Vale

The party consists of Roland, a half elven paladin of Bahamut; Tharnak, a dwarven paladin of Kord; Harrow, a tiefling cleric of the Raven Queen; Namfoodle Timbers, a gnome bard; Kei, a dragonborn wizard; and Tarryn, an elven rogue

Of these, Kei's player has chosen a Dragonborn Elementalist, an old WotC pre-painted mini.  He's going to repaint it to bring it more into line with his vision. Tarryn's player has an idea of what she wants and is looking at various options, probably from the Reaper Miniatures range, and again, want's to paint her mini herself.

So that's four player characters to paint and, in some cases, convert.

Kei plus the base models for Harrow, Tharnak and Roland.  

Below is the necromancer about to donate her scythe (and left arm) to Harrow

Roland 

I had several options for Roland, mostly needing weapon swaps to show his magic glaive. The player has chosen Reaper's Erick, Paladin Initiate (SKU 77197). It was pretty simple to swap his sword for a polearm taken from the ever useful Frostgrave Soldiers sprue. I know it's not actually a glaive, but it's close enough and it looks nicely ornate.

Painting wise I gave him a wash of Army Painter Dark Tone to act as primer and to help the detail stand out more*.

Armour and other metalwork was Chainmail, washed in more Dark Tone, then highlighted up.

The player requested royal blue for the tunic. I tried a lighter blue for the undershirt, but this didn't look right, so I went with white highlighted up from wolf grey. 

The shield is something he must have picked up in Gardmore Abbey (he doesn't normal use a shield, but the mini has one slung).  The device is supposed to represent the claw marks left by Bahamut, and ties in to my adaptation of the original module.

I'm really pleased with how Roland has turned out.  The fairly passive pose is unusual for an adventurer, but I imagine him resting for a moment, contemplating Bahamut's glory.

Tharnak

Tharnak was a bit harder to source than I thought; the bulk of my dwarf miniatures use axe or hammer, not sword. But I found this Reaper dwarf, Durgam Deepmug (SKU 77400), and removed the axe in his left hand, ready for a shield (added after the bulk of the painting was finished).

As with Roland, I gave Tharnak  a Dark Tone wash. This has the same effect as Reaper's liners, but I've misplaced my Reaper paints.

Metalwork was painted in the same way, and at the same time, as Roland. His player wanted dark red for the tunic and reddish brown and yellow for the pants and the fabric portion of the gloves. Other gear was painted in appropriate brown shades. The brief was good quality, but worn. He's still using the stuff he left his clan forge with.

As with Roland I'm pleased with the result, with the exception of the shield.  The detail of the symbol is good (for me), but far too small.  It's something to revisit if time allows.

Harrow 

Harrow was also difficult, mostly because a lot of the female tiefling miniatures are, shall we say, underdressed. I did find a Reaper Hellborn Paladin (SKU 30185) but she's equipped with sword and shield.  However, my son found a necromancer mini with a great scythe.

It seemed sensible to use the elf's left arm to replace the paladin's left arm and shield. The right hand, without sword, could then hold a holy symbol.

Harrow's player has a portrait, which gives me the colours for skin, hair and horns. She's trying to avoid the goth stereotype of the Raven Queen, and would be happy if strangers just thought she was some sort of itinerant farm worker. So muted colours, a mix of metal and leather armour and nothing too showy.

Again, another fun mini to paint, I'm particularly pleased with the skin tones.  But I was running out of ideas for colours for clothing and equipment.  The mini is rather more armoured than the character (better than some of the cheesecake alternatives) and the player specifically wants her to look as ordinary as possible; difficult with some of the fancy armour pieces. 

I've only just noticed that I completely forgot to paint her arm bands.

Namfoodle Timbers

I was anticipating difficulty finding a mini for Timbers, gnome bards with acceptable instruments are rare.  In the end, the Wizkidz Pathfinder Deep Cuts Gnome Male Bard (73205) pack has acceptable options. I hadn't appreciated how petite the mini would be until it arrived, so I had to scrap my plans to give him a more appropriate instrument.

In fact I sometimes find it difficult on a mini this small to pick out fine details. It might be me, but these WizKids minis are particularly prone to this, especially the supposedly ready primed ones. I can paint equivalent sized 15 mm minis perfectly well, but I struggled here. Thinking back, it was the same with Torin.

The player asked for burgundy tunic and dark green trousers. 

The burgundy was a base coat of VGC Dark Flesh, highlighted with VGC Gory Red and Blood Red. The trousers were VGC. I thought his boots and pauldron would look better in grey than brown.

I could complain about his lyre, but it's actually a reasonable representation. The solid plastic for the strings is annoying, but I don't suppose there's any other way of modelling strings at this scale.

This was the least enjoyable mini, probably due to the difficulty of actually working out what I was painting.  It might be the sculpt, or my painting, but I think he looks very worried.

So a set of character minis, and the most important minis for the game.

Some of the players have never experienced face to face D&D, so using minis will be a new experience for them.

Converting and painting these minis reminded me of the ones I did back in 2019.

Moving On, What's Next?

With the PCs done it's time for some opposition. There's one encounter the players have been building (and levelling) up to and I think there's a good chance it might be on the agenda for the session. 

*I was surprised just how much detail is on the mini.  The first Reaper Bones minis were criticised for lack of detail, but I think it's often just harder to see in the white plastic

Dungeons And Dragons Eight Week Project

A(nother) New Project

I've been trying to clear the decks of ongoing stuff ready for an important project. The Thursday evening Dungeons and Dragons group is finally getting to play face to face!

So far we've only played online, and we've been going for many months, but at last we get to play without all the embarrassing pauses and connection issues.  Without Roll20, we can use maps and minis, my favourite way of gaming.

 

I want to have as complete a collection of minis for the game as possible, but that's not as easy as it seems. 

The party are currently exploring my fifth edition version of the fourth edition module, Madness at Gardmore Abbey, but I've added plenty of optional content, and I've changed large parts of the adventure to fit my vision and hopefully avoid some of that 4th edition feel*. 

So there's a big list of potential mini requirements.  Some stuff may be encountered before the live game day, so could be 'wasted' effort; others might never be encountered (again with the effort), so where to start?

And can I get it all done by mid August?

Characters

Well character minis are a must, even in games where I've used card standees for monsters I've stuck to 3D minis for the player characters. 

There are six (yes, six!) player, so that's probably the first target.

Creatures

I want to avoid spoilers, but they have done a fair bit of scouting out and general information gathering, so they've a rough idea of the various creatures they are likely to meet, including...

A dragon and it's kobold minions, various undead (they've already neutralised one necromancer), a Fae knight and his retinue, four minotaurs, quite a lot of orcs and some mercenary bands. 

There are more of course, but I'll try and keep them as a surprise.

Not Just Minis

And then there's terrain.

For the most part I'll use hand drawn floor plans, though I'm keeping open the option to make something suitably grand if time allows. I will be using some furnishings and props, probably some of my Mantic Terrain Crate bits where possible.

I might try building some extra bits, it will depend on time and need.

I had hoped to build some Orc's Drift terrain for Dave Stone's Terrain Challenge in July and August, but I might have to see if dungeon terrain and props count instead.

Planning Ahead 

I accept that I'm not going to get everything ready in time, so I'm going to have to plan smart.

If the PCs are a must, special creatures are also important, but I can work out a list of the most likely encounters. This will also help when planning the terrain and props.

I've still got quite a lot of the WotC prepainted dungeons and dragons minis, so I'll be looking through to see if any of these will be appropriate (no doubt regretting selling off so many). In some cases I've got Reaper Bones minis that I prefer, but if time is short, the prepaints may well get used.

Expect a few waffling posts where I overthink this.  I'll try and post (spoiler free) updates here, but I may be a bit quiet for a while.

Ulterior Motives

Long term reader's know about my Orc's Drift project (check the tag on the right if you don't), where the idea wasn't just to do stuff for the Orc's Drift Campaign, but to have armies and terrain sorted for many other games.

It's the same here.  I hope to have painted up quite a few minis from my 'loft of shame' for RPG use, and it should also help me sort through some of the stuff and decide what I want to keep and what I can get rid of.

* Firstly, I must say that I thoroughly enjoyed 4th ed when it was released; I did, after all, run an eleven year campaign using the rules.  

However, I found most of the published adventures suffered from a need to follow one path through, fighting everything in the dungeon in order.  Partly this is due to the aggressive scaling built into the game; the first adventure, Keep on the Shadowfell (actually published just before the release of the game, and, in theory is an exemplar of the new system) requires exactly this plodding through.  Individual encounters may have multiple paths and loops within them, but there is only one real optional section in the dungeon.  This focus on tactical rather than strategic play was, for me, the main reason I eventually decided that 5th ed was a system better suited to my wants.

Madness at Gardmore Abbey is one of the later 4e adventures, and is a huge pack.  It is generally reckoned to be the best of the official adventures, and is much less set in the approach the players can take; an aspect I play on to the maximum.

Forgotten Heroes Challenge - Mina Murray Finished

Challenge Complete

Ms Murray is finished, my entry to Carrion Crow's Forgotten heroes Challenge.  

I've really enjoyed converting and painting her, although I don't think I've quite done her justice. 

Hmm, missed a spot when matt varnishing.

 

I'm not happy with her face; detail is shallow (it's one of West Wind's earlier sculpts; nice, but they got a lot more detailed by the time they produced the Empire of the Dead range) but I just couldn't settle on the correct shade (pale flesh) and I really mucked up her mouth - she looks more like Heath Ledger in the Batman film than a Victorian gentle lady.

Colour Choices

I chose fairly muted colours for her clothes, apart from her signature red scarf; I wondered why the combination of green, white and purple (the hat band and rosette) seemed familiar, it's the colours of the suffragette movement, though that's a little after Mina's initial involvement with the League, perhaps she inspired Emily Pankhurst?

Moving On

Anyway, enough rambling. What's next?

Well, I've a big project coming up, more on that another time, but I'd like to return to Mina and friends eventually.

Mina flanked by Dr Jekyll and Mister Hyde

Jez suggested I need Mr Hyde to accompany her, and I've got the rather nice West Wind Productions model.  There's no conversion required, so Hyde wouldn't count for the challenge.  He also mentioned an invisible assailant, so I've made a start on it, though I may save it for next year's challenge.

Current progress on 'The Invisible Assailant'

Thanks to Jez for having me, it's been a lot of fun and I hope to join in again next year.

Citadel Giant Restoration: Part2

Following on from part 1, the giant has had a bath in Dettol. I found a good sized tub, actually a Haribo sweet tub picked up from the local newsagents when empty, and a full bottle of Dettol. The remaining leg came off while being fitted in the tub, so now everything more or less fit in a large takeaway tub, placed inside the sweetie tub in case of spills.

Bathtime for the Citadel Giant 

Taking Time

I left the giant in the bath for a week, then gave all the bits a good scrub. This didn't quite remove all the paint, but it did loosen most of the glue joints, so I was able to dismantle the giant further. 

Then it was back into the Dettol again for another week. For a big job like this, it pays to be patient. 

Even this didn't get everything cleaned,  so he got one final Dettol bath.

The giant disassembled

Here's the giant, still with some traces of white primer. The gloopy texture made me wonder if it might even be white emulsion paint as this was quite commonly used at one time, especially before dedicated model primers were readily available. I've been guilty of this myself, but it's really not recommended.  At all.  Seriously, just don't do it, you're better off using standard acrylic paint if you can't find any primer.

One thing that's puzzling me is the glue. That brownish rubbery substance is what's left.  It's still stubbornly stuck around the joints, but all the components have now separated pretty much on their own. 

I'm not aware that two part epoxy glues behave like this, could it be some sort of contact adhesive?

Regardless, it peels off pretty easily. 

Once out of the Dettol,  there's still a bit of cleaning required. Orlyyg, in his excellent blog article, warns against just washing off the paint/Dettol gunge as it just congeals. He suggests neat washing up liquid before using water. 

My current method is to wipe everything as clean as possible with paper towels, then give everything another bath, this time in Isopropanol.  I've had this recommended as a paint stripper as well,  but have had no success (see my final post on my experiments).

Once thoroughly cleaned in Iso, it can be washed if required. 

The giant is now stripped and cleaned, but there's still that broken ankle to fix. That's the task next time. 

Forgotten Heroes Challenge 2 - Mina Converted

This was never going to be a massive conversion project. In fact, as you'll see, I've got as far as the base colours. 

Back to Basics

First job was that solid base. I started with a razor saw, but either it's getting blunt, the metal was particularly tough, or I'm getting weaker in my old age. I switched to a small saw from a Parkside set from Lidl, which did a reasonable job. It's quite a wide set* though, so I had to be careful with positioning so as not to lose any detail. 

Lost her Bottle?

I wanted to remove the bottle, and found a suitable right hand holding a knife on the Frostgrave Soldiers 2 sprue**.

The original hand plus bottle was easily removed, the donor hand trimmed and holes drilled for pinning. 

I have to admit that the hand is a bit large, even though the sprue is of female soldiers, but the Westwind mini is quite petite. I trimmed the hand so pretty much just the knuckles show,  hopefully it won't be too noticeable. 

The Scarf

I had a couple of goes with the scarf; I tried tissue paper with the intention of soaking it in PVA once I was happy with the shape.  But I struggled with the tissue, it kept tearing, and I didn't like the shape.  Then I tried newsprint, a material I'm much more familiar with.

I cut a long thin strip and creased it laterally.  I wrapped it round her neck,  then soaked it in water to make it easier to 'sculpt'. Once I was happy with the shape,  I dripped liquid superglue on it, which hardened and set it in place. 

After doing all this I found some nice strong foil that would have been even better, ah well.  I'll save it for future projects.

Base Colours

On to painting, and I needed to decide what colours to use. There's plenty of options in the source material, so I wasn't short of inspiration.

In the end I went for fairly plain colours. If I ever get the Irene Adler mini and convert that, I'll choose something brighter and fancier, but this is Mina being covert (rather as she is when investigating the Rotherhithe tunnel in volume 1), not Mina mixing in high society.

Still some shading and highlights to go,  but I'm confident that I can hit the deadline on the challenge. 

*The 'set' of a saw is the distance between the outer edge of the teeth.  The teeth are bent out slightly to help smooth cutting,  but this does mean that quite a bit of material is removed.

** I considered using an arm from the Frostgrave Wizards 2 set holding a book, as a nod to the cover of the volume 2 collection, but it looked far too large. 

Artefacts From My Gaming Past; Early Miniatures on Film

This old photograph turned up the other day.  I'm pretty sure it dates from the mid 80's.  At the time I was experimenting with photographing my painted minis, and this is one of the results, perhaps the only surviving picture.  At the time I was getting a lot of Photography help from a good friend (the owner of Kerwyn) and also from one of the photographers at work.  We tried all sorts; extension tubes, filters (actual physical things, not software effects).  The main limiting factor was the cost of having the film developed.

Horde of Goblins and Orcs

The minis are a mixed bunch.  The wargs and goblin rider are from the old Minifigs Mythical Earth range, the grey skinned orc on the left is a Citadel Fantasy Tribes orc, and I think the tall yellow skinned goblin might be Ral Partha, as is the standard bearer.

There's a Minifigs Dungeons and Dragons goblin just peeping out on the right, and a couple more of his friends behind the front rows.  Just visible at the back is the head and scimitar of a Mythical Earth orc.

The background looks like artwork of Sauron, probably taken from a calendar.  The minis are resting on a copy of The Silmarillion.

Wallowing in Nostalgia

Whilst there's not a lot to say about this, it tugs the nostalgia strings for me.  It's a good example of my painting from around 40 years ago, and it shows that I was experimenting with different skin colours for my various orcs and goblins.  In fact, not a single bit of green skin anywhere!  There's even an attempt at shading on the chap front right.

Also, a pleasing mix of manufacturers, something I've gone back to recently, but once I started playing Warhammer Fantasy Battles, I pretty much side-lined all the non Citadel stuff.

Well I hope you enjoyed this little dip into my old memories.  Perhaps you also have something to remind you of your gaming youth.